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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.freelanceunbound.com/2009/04/17/is-people-per-hour-any-use/comment-page-1/#comment-12877</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PPH is a bit dodgy since you have to get into a bidding war just to get a job - that&#039;s ridiculous, and if you win they change their description for what they want done. Very poor. 

There is anew website called bluegig.com coming soon which promises to have quality services. Its not a bidding war. 

Their blog I think is on blogger, something like bluegigmarket. Its launching in April.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PPH is a bit dodgy since you have to get into a bidding war just to get a job &#8211; that&#8217;s ridiculous, and if you win they change their description for what they want done. Very poor. </p>
<p>There is anew website called bluegig.com coming soon which promises to have quality services. Its not a bidding war. </p>
<p>Their blog I think is on blogger, something like bluegigmarket. Its launching in April.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.freelanceunbound.com/2009/04/17/is-people-per-hour-any-use/comment-page-1/#comment-12543</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 10:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I used to work for PPH. Its just a weird company – they desperately want to creat a start up culture but have only suceeded in breeding fear and loathing. Its a little sweat shop.Avoid, avoid, avoid,&quot; - Michael Phelps.

I also used to work at PPH earlier this year and had almost the exact same opinion. I was curious to see how they continued to progress, but as I predicted they have continued their high turnover of staff... Xenios and Simos had a good idea, just very poorly executed sadly. I genuinely expect this company to fail...  big time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I used to work for PPH. Its just a weird company – they desperately want to creat a start up culture but have only suceeded in breeding fear and loathing. Its a little sweat shop.Avoid, avoid, avoid,&#8221; &#8211; Michael Phelps.</p>
<p>I also used to work at PPH earlier this year and had almost the exact same opinion. I was curious to see how they continued to progress, but as I predicted they have continued their high turnover of staff&#8230; Xenios and Simos had a good idea, just very poorly executed sadly. I genuinely expect this company to fail&#8230;  big time!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.freelanceunbound.com/2009/04/17/is-people-per-hour-any-use/comment-page-1/#comment-11539</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 00:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My own experience?  Joining PPH as a freelance copywriter and graphic designer, I was ecstatic when I won my first brief.  The description was vague to the gist of being &quot;write five sports game articles&quot; for around £60.  The money did not really matter too much at this point because just starting out, I wanted experience of doing an actual client brief and wanted something towards my portfolio.

Having won the brief (I think only 2 people bidded) the real details emerged.  The guy was a website developer and was building a gaming website for someone so wanted reviews on five computer games (2 of which I had never played and did not own the console on which the games were exclusive to) so the brief became £30 for 3 articles.  The kicker was that I was not allowed to attribute ownership to the articles.  It annoyed me that the brief did not specify ghostwriting, as I probably would not have bid for it in that case.  

In the end, I churned out 5000 words worth of writing which I wasn&#039;t even allowed to say was written by myself.

I guess my main gripe is the lackadaisical manner in which briefs can be posted up but the restrictions are completely on the writers, in terms of the bid content, etc.  If the brief submission was subjected to stricter guidelines, with certain stipulations being made mandatory, then the quality of work would possibly grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own experience?  Joining PPH as a freelance copywriter and graphic designer, I was ecstatic when I won my first brief.  The description was vague to the gist of being &#8220;write five sports game articles&#8221; for around £60.  The money did not really matter too much at this point because just starting out, I wanted experience of doing an actual client brief and wanted something towards my portfolio.</p>
<p>Having won the brief (I think only 2 people bidded) the real details emerged.  The guy was a website developer and was building a gaming website for someone so wanted reviews on five computer games (2 of which I had never played and did not own the console on which the games were exclusive to) so the brief became £30 for 3 articles.  The kicker was that I was not allowed to attribute ownership to the articles.  It annoyed me that the brief did not specify ghostwriting, as I probably would not have bid for it in that case.  </p>
<p>In the end, I churned out 5000 words worth of writing which I wasn&#8217;t even allowed to say was written by myself.</p>
<p>I guess my main gripe is the lackadaisical manner in which briefs can be posted up but the restrictions are completely on the writers, in terms of the bid content, etc.  If the brief submission was subjected to stricter guidelines, with certain stipulations being made mandatory, then the quality of work would possibly grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 22:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean. But this model relies on the software used being accurate and, to some extent, creative. To date, most if not all software of this nature is pretty crude. The mighty Microsoft has been toiling away with Word for years now, and it still doesn&#039;t have a writer&#039;s grasp of grammar. So I don&#039;t store much faith in these programs.

Like anything else, there&#039;s no shortcut around getting a professional in. It&#039;s just taking a while for this to sink in. But with the advent of content as king, it&#039;s coming. And with more hard copy publications going out of business, there are plenty of writers adapting their skills for the online market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean. But this model relies on the software used being accurate and, to some extent, creative. To date, most if not all software of this nature is pretty crude. The mighty Microsoft has been toiling away with Word for years now, and it still doesn&#8217;t have a writer&#8217;s grasp of grammar. So I don&#8217;t store much faith in these programs.</p>
<p>Like anything else, there&#8217;s no shortcut around getting a professional in. It&#8217;s just taking a while for this to sink in. But with the advent of content as king, it&#8217;s coming. And with more hard copy publications going out of business, there are plenty of writers adapting their skills for the online market.</p>
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		<title>By: Freelance Unbound</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freelance Unbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nick

I&#039;m noticing a different model for written content in the internet marketing fraternity – decently written articles for sale by the writer at pretty low prices, but the money comes from selling sets to more than one customer (on the assumption that Google doesn&#039;t – yet – penalise syndication). Then users of the content can also use software to rewrite (or spin) the articles so they read differently for republication with different sites.

There&#039;s still corner-cutting going on – but now there are options to create (and fund) reasonably high quality writing work in the first place...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick</p>
<p>I&#8217;m noticing a different model for written content in the internet marketing fraternity – decently written articles for sale by the writer at pretty low prices, but the money comes from selling sets to more than one customer (on the assumption that Google doesn&#8217;t – yet – penalise syndication). Then users of the content can also use software to rewrite (or spin) the articles so they read differently for republication with different sites.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s still corner-cutting going on – but now there are options to create (and fund) reasonably high quality writing work in the first place&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had the same experience, resulting in the same opinion, as many of you.

PeoplePerHour devalues writing - there&#039;s no doubt about that. But I don&#039;t think clients who are serious about their businesses use it. I mean, if you put time, money and effort into the source of your income, are you going to cut corners? Okay, some people who aren&#039;t familiar with copywriting might; you know, the old idea of &quot;I can write a letter, I just don&#039;t have the time to write my site.&quot;. But most legitimate and serious entrepreneurs and generally smart people will go elsewhere.

PeoplePerHour&#039;s days are numbered - the low cost and low quality model just isn&#039;t sustainable. Especially as most of the work advertised is for website copywriting, and Google&#039;s algorithm is evolving to wipe out junk sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had the same experience, resulting in the same opinion, as many of you.</p>
<p>PeoplePerHour devalues writing &#8211; there&#8217;s no doubt about that. But I don&#8217;t think clients who are serious about their businesses use it. I mean, if you put time, money and effort into the source of your income, are you going to cut corners? Okay, some people who aren&#8217;t familiar with copywriting might; you know, the old idea of &#8220;I can write a letter, I just don&#8217;t have the time to write my site.&#8221;. But most legitimate and serious entrepreneurs and generally smart people will go elsewhere.</p>
<p>PeoplePerHour&#8217;s days are numbered &#8211; the low cost and low quality model just isn&#8217;t sustainable. Especially as most of the work advertised is for website copywriting, and Google&#8217;s algorithm is evolving to wipe out junk sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2011 17:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad I&#039;m not the only one.

I even contacted PPH to ask why their site devalued writing so much- they claimed it was the market not them. So I pointed out their own ad asking for writers at less than minimum wage...

http://mumazing.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/people-per-hour-worth-a-look-or-another-way-to-devalue-writing/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I&#8217;m not the only one.</p>
<p>I even contacted PPH to ask why their site devalued writing so much- they claimed it was the market not them. So I pointed out their own ad asking for writers at less than minimum wage&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nita</title>
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		<dc:creator>nita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tacky - you can do voiceovers for porn films there. Oh, and loads of jobs doing descriptions of free porn films as well.  Plus one job I reported to the site administrators that was obviously a paedo who wanted someone to tape a child of 2 or 3 reading some &quot;really really no mistake its a paedo lines&quot; - 

It&#039;s garbage.  Lots of &#039;editorial&#039; work from India - these firms double up as translation bureaus, do a quick &#039;Google translate&#039;, then get someone English to try to make it read well in English - trouble is , a)the translation is inaccurate, and b)its an NHS patient&#039;s  medical records- surprised no one has died yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tacky &#8211; you can do voiceovers for porn films there. Oh, and loads of jobs doing descriptions of free porn films as well.  Plus one job I reported to the site administrators that was obviously a paedo who wanted someone to tape a child of 2 or 3 reading some &#8220;really really no mistake its a paedo lines&#8221; &#8211; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s garbage.  Lots of &#8216;editorial&#8217; work from India &#8211; these firms double up as translation bureaus, do a quick &#8216;Google translate&#8217;, then get someone English to try to make it read well in English &#8211; trouble is , a)the translation is inaccurate, and b)its an NHS patient&#8217;s  medical records- surprised no one has died yet!</p>
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		<title>By: michael phelps</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 00:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to work for PPH.  Its just a weird company - they desperately want to creat a start up culture but have only suceeded in breeding fear and loathing. Its a little sweat shop.Avoid, avoid, avoid,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to work for PPH.  Its just a weird company &#8211; they desperately want to creat a start up culture but have only suceeded in breeding fear and loathing. Its a little sweat shop.Avoid, avoid, avoid,</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Flowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Flowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very helpful article - and comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very helpful article &#8211; and comments!</p>
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