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	<title>Comments on: Journalists can&#039;t afford to be purist about their trade anymore</title>
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		<title>By: Journalism ain&#8217;t broke &#171; The Martin Cloake blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalism ain&#8217;t broke &#171; The Martin Cloake blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and &#8216;new&#8217; media. And I think more than a few of us are saying the same thing. I found this post on Freelance Unbound a good read, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and &#8216;new&#8217; media. And I think more than a few of us are saying the same thing. I found this post on Freelance Unbound a good read, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: freelanceunbound</title>
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		<dc:creator>freelanceunbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I say Luddite? I never said Luddite...

Well, yes - I know what you mean. Though actually journalism students are &lt;a href=&quot;http://freelanceunbound.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/do-we-overestimate-journalism-students-web-skills/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;less down on Google and other web tech than you&#039;d think&lt;/a&gt;.

It may well be that we can&#039;t turn into one-person content businesses. But when it comes to paid work in the roughly related media field, I&#039;m noticing more and more of it requires more than a passing knowledge of web skills – including driving traffic, SEO, link-building and the like.

And yes – you might say that&#039;s not really journalism in the way we have got used to it for the past century. But I think that model of journalism – the intrepid reporter with his trusty notebook, answerable only to his editor and his principles – is dead or dying. It&#039;s time has gone. It hasn&#039;t been with us forever, and it won&#039;t be with us forever.

But you know – I&#039;m not sure that will mean the end of &quot;journalism&quot;. Some of the most challenging journalism I&#039;ve read lately has some from unpaid bloggers taking, say, local government to task over spending that doesn&#039;t add up. And this is the kind of coverage that &quot;real&quot; journalists in the local media are neither numerate nor independent enough to pursue themselves.

Does it make journalism a good career option now though? Maybe not...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I say Luddite? I never said Luddite&#8230;</p>
<p>Well, yes &#8211; I know what you mean. Though actually journalism students are <a href="http://freelanceunbound.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/do-we-overestimate-journalism-students-web-skills/" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/freelanceunbound.wordpress.com/2009/06/19/do-we-overestimate-journalism-students-web-skills/?referer=');">less down on Google and other web tech than you&#8217;d think</a>.</p>
<p>It may well be that we can&#8217;t turn into one-person content businesses. But when it comes to paid work in the roughly related media field, I&#8217;m noticing more and more of it requires more than a passing knowledge of web skills – including driving traffic, SEO, link-building and the like.</p>
<p>And yes – you might say that&#8217;s not really journalism in the way we have got used to it for the past century. But I think that model of journalism – the intrepid reporter with his trusty notebook, answerable only to his editor and his principles – is dead or dying. It&#8217;s time has gone. It hasn&#8217;t been with us forever, and it won&#8217;t be with us forever.</p>
<p>But you know – I&#8217;m not sure that will mean the end of &#8220;journalism&#8221;. Some of the most challenging journalism I&#8217;ve read lately has some from unpaid bloggers taking, say, local government to task over spending that doesn&#8217;t add up. And this is the kind of coverage that &#8220;real&#8221; journalists in the local media are neither numerate nor independent enough to pursue themselves.</p>
<p>Does it make journalism a good career option now though? Maybe not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FleetStreetBlues</title>
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		<dc:creator>FleetStreetBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All valid points - but it wasn&#039;t intended only as a Luddite rant.

Two points:

1) A certain computer literacy is important... but all of those journalist graduates being spewed out of higher education institutions have got the computer bit down. What they&#039;re less good at is the other skills of journalism - so, in general terms, that&#039;s what they need to work at. Think of the last work experience student you saw... ten to one they were a ninja on Google, but their phone manner could use some work.

2) The idea of a journalist knowing how to drive traffic, setting up his own website and doing his own journalism is a nice one - but it&#039;s a myth. We blog as a hobby, but it doesn&#039;t pay the bills, and with one or two possible exceptions no journalists at all are self-funding. So the point was we should stop wringing our hands over our inability to do the impossible, and become one-men journalism/publishing/advertising machines. If we&#039;re going to make a success of journalism, we&#039;re going to have to do it as part of a team which includes people who can make it pay and devote themselves full time to getting that payment. Anything is is a bit of a pipe-dream, at the moment at least.

Just our two cents.. oh, and we absolutely do trust you. I&#039;m just rubbish at getting round to approving the comments!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All valid points &#8211; but it wasn&#8217;t intended only as a Luddite rant.</p>
<p>Two points:</p>
<p>1) A certain computer literacy is important&#8230; but all of those journalist graduates being spewed out of higher education institutions have got the computer bit down. What they&#8217;re less good at is the other skills of journalism &#8211; so, in general terms, that&#8217;s what they need to work at. Think of the last work experience student you saw&#8230; ten to one they were a ninja on Google, but their phone manner could use some work.</p>
<p>2) The idea of a journalist knowing how to drive traffic, setting up his own website and doing his own journalism is a nice one &#8211; but it&#8217;s a myth. We blog as a hobby, but it doesn&#8217;t pay the bills, and with one or two possible exceptions no journalists at all are self-funding. So the point was we should stop wringing our hands over our inability to do the impossible, and become one-men journalism/publishing/advertising machines. If we&#8217;re going to make a success of journalism, we&#8217;re going to have to do it as part of a team which includes people who can make it pay and devote themselves full time to getting that payment. Anything is is a bit of a pipe-dream, at the moment at least.</p>
<p>Just our two cents.. oh, and we absolutely do trust you. I&#8217;m just rubbish at getting round to approving the comments!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Soilman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. The notion that &quot;we just do the journalism and you figure out how to pay for it&quot; is part of the problem.

Two reasons:

a. The &quot;great journalism&quot; that we&#039;ve been trained/educated/indoctrinated to champion as our ideal, for at least a century, has been made possible NOT because our readers wanted it, but because &lt;em&gt;we&lt;/em&gt; did; it just so happens that we were able to extort the ad bucks to let us do it. Online, we can&#039;t – and only now are we discovering that our idealised &quot;great journalism&quot; isn&#039;t as indispensable as we thought it was.

If you doubt this, answer this simple question: If it&#039;s so great, how come nobody wants to pay for it? Ah yes, of course: they&#039;re idiots and &quot;they&#039;ll miss us when we&#039;re gone&quot;. Nothing to do with us and our product, guv.

b. Journalists are no longer separate from the grubby, vulgar, money-making end of the media machine. The new online revenue streams (such as they are) are very different from the ad-served-against-readership-numbers model. Journalists have a big role to play in revenue generation now, where they had none before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. The notion that &#8220;we just do the journalism and you figure out how to pay for it&#8221; is part of the problem.</p>
<p>Two reasons:</p>
<p>a. The &#8220;great journalism&#8221; that we&#8217;ve been trained/educated/indoctrinated to champion as our ideal, for at least a century, has been made possible NOT because our readers wanted it, but because <em>we</em> did; it just so happens that we were able to extort the ad bucks to let us do it. Online, we can&#8217;t – and only now are we discovering that our idealised &#8220;great journalism&#8221; isn&#8217;t as indispensable as we thought it was.</p>
<p>If you doubt this, answer this simple question: If it&#8217;s so great, how come nobody wants to pay for it? Ah yes, of course: they&#8217;re idiots and &#8220;they&#8217;ll miss us when we&#8217;re gone&#8221;. Nothing to do with us and our product, guv.</p>
<p>b. Journalists are no longer separate from the grubby, vulgar, money-making end of the media machine. The new online revenue streams (such as they are) are very different from the ad-served-against-readership-numbers model. Journalists have a big role to play in revenue generation now, where they had none before.</p>
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