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	<title>Comments on: Journalism students: feedback is your friend</title>
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		<title>By: Freelance Unbound</title>
		<link>http://www.freelanceunbound.com/2009/10/28/journalism-students-feedback-is-your-friend/comment-page-1/#comment-359</link>
		<dc:creator>Freelance Unbound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment Sarah – I&#039;m very interested in collecting more information about this from students, graduates and people in the industry. 

Crucially, I think your comment actually backs up my point. The positive reinforcement I&#039;m talking about happens at school, so university students are unprepared for real, if constructive, criticism. Your loss of confidence at university could have simply come from not being exposed to such criticism – and learning how to handle it – earlier on in education. 

However, obviously I wasn&#039;t there, so I don&#039;t know how your university feedback was presented. Maybe it was done badly. 

But – and this is a crucial point that you raise yourself – if it made you &lt;strong&gt;work harder&lt;/strong&gt; that&#039;s kind of the point. Although it might have felt painful at the time, it certainly couldn&#039;t have really destroyed your confidence because your work experience was a success. 

This is a tricky area and I really do welcome feedback on it. I think it&#039;s vitally important to be able to process criticism – and the better equipped students are to do this, the easier they will be able to separate out valid, constructive criticism from ill-thought-out abuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment Sarah – I&#8217;m very interested in collecting more information about this from students, graduates and people in the industry. </p>
<p>Crucially, I think your comment actually backs up my point. The positive reinforcement I&#8217;m talking about happens at school, so university students are unprepared for real, if constructive, criticism. Your loss of confidence at university could have simply come from not being exposed to such criticism – and learning how to handle it – earlier on in education. </p>
<p>However, obviously I wasn&#8217;t there, so I don&#8217;t know how your university feedback was presented. Maybe it was done badly. </p>
<p>But – and this is a crucial point that you raise yourself – if it made you <strong>work harder</strong> that&#8217;s kind of the point. Although it might have felt painful at the time, it certainly couldn&#8217;t have really destroyed your confidence because your work experience was a success. </p>
<p>This is a tricky area and I really do welcome feedback on it. I think it&#8217;s vitally important to be able to process criticism – and the better equipped students are to do this, the easier they will be able to separate out valid, constructive criticism from ill-thought-out abuse.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the statement that there is too much positive reinforcement: my work on my university course was criticised so heavily that it destroyed my confidence in my own writing. 

It wasn&#039;t until I wrote a feature whilst on work experience that I realised that my work wasn&#039;t awful, and my articles went to print relatively untouched. When the editor made any changes or suggestions, she explained her decisions in detail and showed me how to improve.

In spite of this, I don&#039;t resent the university for its stance, because it made me work harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the statement that there is too much positive reinforcement: my work on my university course was criticised so heavily that it destroyed my confidence in my own writing. </p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t until I wrote a feature whilst on work experience that I realised that my work wasn&#8217;t awful, and my articles went to print relatively untouched. When the editor made any changes or suggestions, she explained her decisions in detail and showed me how to improve.</p>
<p>In spite of this, I don&#8217;t resent the university for its stance, because it made me work harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Soilman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soilman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and nurtured in the right environment, feedback is FUN. Some of the happiest hours I&#039;ve spent in journalism were passed &#039;deconstructing&#039; colleagues&#039; prose – and having my own &lt;del&gt;ripped apart&lt;/del&gt; appraised in turn. 

I struggle with this with young journalists, too. Somehow they need to understand that criticism isn&#039;t bad – it doesn&#039;t mean that &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; are shit, or that you won&#039;t ever be any good. On the contrary, it&#039;s about helping you be better. 

Oh, and they need to understand that it&#039;s part and parcel of being a professional writer. Amateurs don&#039;t need to care, or need to be any good, because it doesn&#039;t matter to them. 

But this is paying our bills. It&#039;s too important to be treated lightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and nurtured in the right environment, feedback is FUN. Some of the happiest hours I&#8217;ve spent in journalism were passed &#8216;deconstructing&#8217; colleagues&#8217; prose – and having my own <del>ripped apart</del> appraised in turn. </p>
<p>I struggle with this with young journalists, too. Somehow they need to understand that criticism isn&#8217;t bad – it doesn&#8217;t mean that <em>you</em> are shit, or that you won&#8217;t ever be any good. On the contrary, it&#8217;s about helping you be better. </p>
<p>Oh, and they need to understand that it&#8217;s part and parcel of being a professional writer. Amateurs don&#8217;t need to care, or need to be any good, because it doesn&#8217;t matter to them. </p>
<p>But this is paying our bills. It&#8217;s too important to be treated lightly.</p>
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